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| Hashashin:
--- Quote from: Toska on May 24, 2010, 20:53 ---Most of the bulgarian racists define macedonian as bulgarian (soon they 'll begin to qualify serbian as a subdialect of bulgarian ) but as we know there are so many differencies between them. With simple logic we can easily define rhodopean tongues as like as a language. If macedonian is an accepted language by linguistic scientists, pomak language would be accept as a language. M i right ?ian --- End quote --- The language spoken in Macedonia and Bulgarian are mutually intelligible although in Macedonia many Serbian words were introduced. So they could be regarded as two sub groups of one language as British and American English. Regarding to the language spoken by pomaks in Bulgaria. Pomaks in Bulgaria speak a dialect from the region they live. Teteven pomaks speak a Balkan mountain dialect as well as their christian neighbours. Pomaks from Nevrokop region as well as Babek pomaks speak a dialect of the Pirin dialectig group which is spread in south west Bulgaria. Pomaks from Chech can be put in the same group. Smolyan pomaks speak the same dialect as the Christisn population of Smolyan region. Of course every village has its own dialect but generally it is the same Rup dialect spoken by pomaks and christians in Smolyan region. So how could it be a separate language. Genarally pomaks speak the dialect or a sub dialect of the region they live. For example the dialect of Teteven and Nevrokop pomaks is very close to the standart Bulgarian language, much more closer than Shop dialect spoken in the surroundings of Sofia and the dialects of Vratsa and Vidin. Pomaks in Smolyan region speak the most different dialect but it is shared by christians there. So if we assume that Pomaks in Smolyan region speak a separate Pomak language, do their christian neighbours speak Pomak also? Why they speak Pomak if they are not Pomaks?? So as you can see we can't speak about a separate Pomak language. Pomaks in Bulgaria speak a dialect of Bulgarian shared by their Christian neighbours (Smolyan and Teteven Pomaks) and their own dialect which is very close to dialects speak by christians in the region (Nevrokop, Babek and Chech Pomaks). |
| Тоска:
Balkandjiq, firstly this analize had taken from somewhere which 's possible to disprove of existence of pomak language. It may related with nacional policy. Rup dialect (according to you & many linguistic scientists) seems to differs from official bulgarian even macedonian. If you ask me which one i would prefer to define a separate language my answer will be the rup ;) nor macedonian or bulgarian |
| Hashashin:
But. Toska, Rup is spoken also by Christians in the region. How it could be a separate language and called Pomak language if it is spoken by Christians also ??? This is the question. |
| Тоска:
Don't forget that religion unify the nation like a language at least one of them strenghten the other one. For example bosniaks speak a serbo-croatian dialect but on the other hand their language determine as a separate language from serbian. Even there exist christian serbs and all of them are speaking the same language that is to say "Bosnian" ;) |
| Hashashin:
The case of the Bosniaks is very different. In the middle ages they had an independent and strong state. And their state religion was Bogomilism. During to Ottoman rule most of them converted to islam, but some converted to Orthodoxy, other to Catholicism. So these people who are called Bosnians serbs are bosniaks who converted to orthodoxy and bosnian croats are bosniaks who converted to Catholcism. In fact the Serbo-Croatian language is an artificial language which was created by Vuk Karadjich and his scholars in the early 19th Century. This language was based on the language spoken by the serbs and a great croatian influence. Gradually this language replaced local languages in Serbia, Croatia and Bosnia. Because of this now this three nations speak one language. If you go to some regions of Croatia, Serbia and Bosnia you still can hear the ancient languages of this people spoken there. They are clearly three separate slavic languages. So the case of Bosnia is very very different from the case of Rup dialect. |
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