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--- Quote from: Балканджия on May 25, 2010, 10:02 ---The case of the Bosniaks is very different. In the middle ages they had an independent and strong state. And their state religion was Bogomilism. During to Ottoman rule most of them converted to islam, but some converted to Orthodoxy, other to Catholicism. So these people who are called Bosnians serbs are bosniaks who converted to orthodoxy and bosnian croats are bosniaks who converted to Catholcism. In fact the Serbo-Croatian language is an artificial language which was created by Vuk Karadjich and his scholars in the early 19th Century. This language was based on the language spoken by the serbs and a great croatian influence. Gradually this language replaced local languages in Serbia, Croatia and Bosnia. Because of this now this three nations speak one language. If you go to some regions of Croatia, Serbia and Bosnia you still can hear the ancient languages of this people spoken there. They are clearly three separate slavic languages. So the case of Bosnia is very very different from the case of Rup dialect. --- End quote --- Sadly, This is not a response to my question. I asked if existence of bosnian language and analogue case between them. Also rup is much more different from official bulgarian than difference of bosnian from serbian. Meantime using your own comments will provide us with invaluable information about what people in the bulgaria think about ethnic diversity ;) |
| Hashashin:
Ethnic diversity in Bulgaria is huge. More than 14 ethnic groups live here. Some of the like Gagauzs and Karakachans are almost extinct. But about the language. I don't think that Rup is a separate language. When I was in Xanthi and Kavala where pomaks speak pure Rup dialect I didn't have any problems with understanding them, neighther they to understand me, speaking standart Bulgarian. I had more problems with understanding people from Samokov and Vidin regions in Bulgaria than with pomaks in Greece. And of course I can't understand even 30% of the Trn regional dialect from western Bulgaria but it doesn't make it a separate language. I hope that a linguist will take a part in this discussion, because you and me are amatiors in this field of study! |
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Златоградски Диалект 1 Balkandjiya, As you can see many of them don't understand. And as you know majority of zlatograd is pomak;) Most important thing is a person who have got experience or wonder on various slavic dialects like you, would claim rup's a subdialect of bulgarian. Clarity of dialect from a region requires at least % 70 -80 similarity with official language. I bet that zlatograd's is less than % 70-80 ;) Selected comments from zlatogradski dialect ? |
| Hashashin:
But I will say again. Christians in this region also speak Rup. Do they speak pomak? Are they pomaks? But as I said better linguists to come. They could say more things than me. |
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Christian serbians who are living in bosnia and speaking majority of muslim bosnian's language do they muslims ? ;) but I agree with you about linguistic scientists. |
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