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Subeyi Kurt:
Гледай д-р Пасков ,където са изброените 5 големи лъжи в българската история.  :) :) :)

Rasate, ( П.Пасков) този път ти сам си се издаде, но тук личността няма значение. Не е важно също че си ветеринарен лекар. Важното е да намерим истината, но ти не я търсиш, защото предварително си си поставил цел по всякакъв начин да докажеш че булгарите нямат тюркска жилка. Не зачиташ научни работи на тази тема на професори, а искаш да ти вярваме на твоите си фантасмагории.  Др. Пасков, би ли ни обяснил защо толкоз много професори се лъжат че булгарите са тюрки, все пак ти си ординариус на тази тема :)

Marlboro:
ДОКАЗАНО! Първите пещерни хора са българи!
http://bradva.bg/bg/article/article-44121#.VUQ6vELF-ng




...kolko pati sum kazval, che haidytite sa peshterni hora ? ,... da-a-a taka e, samo, che predi krajbata na Kopskte bykvi sa govoreli na peshteren ezik  Ga-Ga Gu-Gu.  8)

Subeyi Kurt:

Най-древните останки на „европеид” от Централна Азия са датирани на около 25-30 хиляди години.[/color][/size][/font]

http://stdinkov.blogspot.com.tr/2015/05/iii.html

Marlboro:

Book I
THE CHILDREN OF THE HUNSCHAPTER I
The five sons of king Kubrat (Actually, Kurbat: in Greek, Crubatus or Crobatus; in Bulgar, Kurt; Bat is an ubiquitous Türkic title of Classical and early Middle Age time, with numerous examples from Danube to Yaik; etymology: Bat (Bata) - governor, chief, prince, khan, head of a group; Batavyl - Princely headquarters. Kur or Chur is also an ubiquitous Türkic title meaning “Prince” with semantics of hero, mighty warrior, victor. Since the form “Kubrat” can't be derived from Crubatus or Crobatus, nor from Kurt, this particular distortion has no justification)Once upon a time, when Constans was Emperor in Byzantium, there lived a king called Kubrat (Kurbat) on the shores of the Sea of Azov. In due course he died, leaving five sons behind him, whom he bade live in concord together. But the brothers in a short time quarreled, as princes often do, and, dividing the inheritance between them, departed each his own way, bearing his portion of the people with him. The eldest brother alone, Baian, remained where he was born; the second brother, Cotrag, crossed the Don, to the northward, and lived on the farther bank; the fourth brother moved far to the westward, and, crossing the Danube, came to Pannonia, where he fell under the domination of the Avars; the youngest wandered even farther, and ended his days in the Pentapolis of Ravenna. But the third brother, whose name was Asperuch, crossed the Dnieper and the Dniester and settled on the banks of the Lower Danube.
“Quarreled” is not the right word. Soon after Kurbat's death, in the Central Asian Western Türkic Kaganate broke an internecine war, and the Western Wing of the Kaganate split and reorganized with a center in Khazaria. The new Ashina ruler of the state that became known as Khazaria asserted their suzerainty over Kurbat's Great Bulgaria, which in 630 gained independence from the Western Türkic Kaganate. After a brief war for independence, Great Bulgaria was again subjugated. Bat Bayan (Baian) with the majority of Bulgar tribes submitted to the new Kagan, while the other four brothers chose to preserve their independence and migrate away from the new Türkic Kaganate in Khazaria. In the run-up to the military debacle, Asparukh contended with Bat Bayan for the leadership of the Great Bulgaria, and organized a petty pretender war against his brother, which was a major reason for the loss of the Bulgarian independence. Ultimately, the court coup in the Western Türkic Kaganate brought about disintegration of the Bulgarian state and the Asparukh's migration.Kurbat was a descendant of Attila in 9th generation, Asparukh  and his brothers were descendants of Attila in 10th generation, of the Dulo dynasty. The Dulo dynasty offsprings cherished their dynastic dignity and were not eager to submit to the neophyte Ashina Türks. Between 558 and 630 the Dulo dynasty was in a symbiotic relationship with the Uar (War) Huns dynasty of the Avars, which apparently had a compatible or higher pedigree than the Dulo dynasty.

Marlboro:

We do not know the personal name of Kurbat, he entered history under his later title-name Kobrat, Türkic “Gatherer”, which apparently was pronounced with a stop vowel still observed in Bulgarian: K'rbat, B'lgar, rendered in Slavic with a silent hard character ъ as Кърбат and Българ. Hence the Greek renditions Crubat and Crobat and Χουβράτης and the like, and the fossilized distortion Kubrat. The transposition of phonemes is not unusual within the same language, and much more so in the renditions of the foreign languages, which in this case includes the transition from the Ogur Bulgaric to the widespread Türkic Oguz of the latter times. In Türkic, kür is “brave, daring”, and it is a common title-name for princes, adopted in Türkic, Indian, Persian etc nomenclature with allophonic Kür/Kur/Chur/Chor etc. forms; kür er stands for “brave man”; in the idiomatic expression, brave also implies “truthful”, not mincing the words. Bat, a form of ata “father”, as title for leaders is first attested among the Caucasian Huns, but may be a western borrowing from local Sarmats, later it was known among the Late Sarmatian and early Slavic tribes, and it retained its meaning to modernity among Türkic and Ukraine people. Kurbat as “”Brave Leader”, with its later allophonic “Gatherer”, appear to be most consistent with all documented forms.
The name Asparukh was assiduously ascribed a “Middle Iranian” etymology, for some reasons not found in the Persian lands, but only in the ancient Bulgaria and Georgia. In Türkic we have Asparukh = “Royal quarter Aspak“, where Aspak is “Severe”; the Türkic name Aspak has ancient roots and numerous historical and modern records.

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