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Pomak language ?
« on: May 23, 2010, 17:08 »
Would it be possible to define writer's observation as an evidence of pomak language?
 
This citation's from "TSVETKOVA, B. (1963) ‘French travellers from the 15th to the 18th century, on the Rodopi region and
adjacent Aegean areas’, in: Rodopi Collection, Vol. 1"
 
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Ottoman documents, information about the Pomaks is relatively scarce. Frenchman Paul Lucas was the first European to mention Slavophone Muslims in the Rodopi Mountains in 1706. Crossing the mountains from Plovdiv to Drama, he reached Pashmakli (the present-day Smolyan) and wrote the following in his diary: ‘And when we had covered a distance of seven miles in those same mountains and along very arduous paths, we passed through the village called Pashmakli. It is populated by Turks only, but they do not speak their language. Their dialect is, rather, distorted Slavonic mixed with Greek and Bulgarian

Probably turkish definition of paul lucas used by instead of muslim population.

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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2010, 18:20 »
Pomak language = bulgarian language

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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2010, 18:28 »
Of course.

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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2010, 19:59 »
It is populated by Turks only.

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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2010, 20:20 »
Turk means muslim in the Balkans


Become Turk is equal become muslim in Pomak tongue.


Ako si Turchin da si vyarvash.


Turchin = Muslim in our language.

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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2010, 20:34 »
Изперкалите фанатици пак почнаха..:) muslim = turk :) тъй, тъй, другарю комунист

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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2010, 20:46 »
Моля пишете по-английски!!!
 
Truth is truth man. Meanwhile if u wanna to charge someone who tells the truth please show ur respect ;)

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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2010, 21:45 »
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Моля пишете по-английски!!!
 
По-ингилизки от ингилизки не  може.Виж,друга работа си е  - Пишете на англиѝски!

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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2010, 22:02 »
Do not angry with me.
I did not say. Mr. Paul Lucas said if you pay attention.

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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2010, 00:06 »
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Изперкалите фанатици пак почнаха.. muslim = turk  тъй, тъй, другарю комунист

 
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2010, 00:16 »
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Would it be possible to define writer's observation as an evidence of pomak language?
This citation's from "TSVETKOVA, B. (1963) ‘French travellers from the 15th to the 18th century, on the Rodopi region and adjacent Aegean areas’, in: Rodopi Collection, Vol. 1"
Probably turkish definition of paul lucas used by instead of muslim population.
Another evidence as straight nail stuck in the wooden box of Nazism to the authenticity and purty of modern language!   :o   ;D   ;)
 

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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2010, 08:51 »
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Изперкалите фанатици пак почнаха.. muslim = turk  тъй, тъй, другарю комунист

Please look at this source for how to become muslim=turk: as a sample.
 
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"Ethnic cleansing in the Balkans: nationalism and the destruction of tradition"   
Author: Cathie Carmichael
 
"nationalist ideas which developed in the ninenteenth century tended to exclude Muslims from the nation, because by adopting Islam they were perceived to have become de facto Ottomans (and were sometimes referred to indiscriminately as "Turks".  page: 23

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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2010, 09:39 »
We as Pomaks living in Turkey define our tongue as “Pomaski ezik” what we are speaking. None of our people use the definition of Bulgarian. Because we are Pomak People in Turkey and the name of our language is Pomaski=Pomakça.

Secondly our member Recep Memiş said that his mother is calling “Aarensky or Ahrensky”. Interestingly she never use and don’t accept the term of Pomaski. This definition means Ahrenski is the language of Ahrens.

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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2010, 20:53 »
Most of the bulgarian racists define macedonian as bulgarian (soon they 'll begin to qualify serbian as a subdialect of bulgarian  ;D ) but as we know there are so many differencies between them. With simple logic we can easily define rhodopean tongues as like as a language. If macedonian is an accepted language by linguistic scientists, pomak language would be accept as a language. M i right ?

 

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